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Hello Chinese Touhou fans. I know you read my posts. Sadly, I don't know Chinese and cannot register an account on Chinese services. I just want to help you and other Touhou fans which may be in danger too in the future. If you think that my posts will make the situation only worse, you can write it here or in the tieba.baidu.com thread, because I can read from there. I really respect your works and want your websites to be restored as fast as possible. Thank you for understanding.

Hello. Some sad and important news. Chinese Touhou websites are currently under DDoS attack. Chinese Touhou Wiki (THBwiki), a lot of forums, sites related to Touhou events and other big important Touhou sites and (according to some Chinese fans) some QQ and Telegram Touhou-related chats and Touhou-related servers for multiplayer games are under organised attack, which began 5 days ago and is becoming stronger day by day. Today the all services related to THBwiki which were hosted by Nyasama became down. To somehow understand the damage to Chinese Touhou fandom imagine if in 2011 Touhou wiki, MotK, gensokyo.org and most other Western Touhou sites became down at the same time. Nobody knows the goal of the attack and how long it would last. Maybe Western and Japanese Touhou sites are under looming threat. We should be prepared to that. The more people would know about this the more chances we have solve this problem. Official statement on https://bbs.nyasama.com (one of the biggest Chinese forums) (Google translated): Official statement by THBwiki (https://www.bilibili.com/read/cv36031940/ ) (Google translated): Current state of sites related to THBwiki you can see here: https://thwiki.github.io/status/ Status of Patchyvideo (VoileLabs): https://status.patchyvideo.com Info by Chinese Touhou Newspaper (10.07.2024): The large-scale attacks on Chinese Touhou Community still continuing today, and the number of the victims has increased to ten. THBWiki and Patchyvideo (THVideo) have announced suspension of external services. According to some reliable sources, yesterday from afternoon to night, the attackers used a lot of accounts to upload a large amount of politically sensitive content to THBWiki and Patchyvideo, which may be one of the factors that prompted the closure of the website. According to an announcement from Nyasama, they used attack methods including but not limited to DDoS, DoS, CC and sending illegal content to destroy Chinese Touhou websites that contain the word "Touhou Project" on the page. Secondly, the attackers may further extend to various Touhou QQ groups and BiliBili live.Please be aware. In the deteriorating situation,there are some suggestion. 1. Use Cloudflare and other security measures to protect the website. 2. Hide the visible links. 3. Close the issue tab of the Github repos. 4. Suspend the Touhou live on live platforms such as BiliBili. 5. Be alert to anonymously posted illegal information. 6. Review the add-group applicants. 7. Protect personal information. 8. Actively to use the reporting function. I hope we can help each other and overcome the difficulties time together. What can you do? Share this topic to your friend and let they know about it. And donate for them But on some platform you need to register and add your bank card to donate HOW-to: https://blog.wmsci.com/2023/02/afdian-donate/ How to use Alipay as a foreigner (Inside China) - Wise How to use WeChat Pay to help Foreigner visiting China: A Guide 2024 (registrationchina.com) THBWiki Wechat: Alipay: VoileLabs (afdian.net) Voilelabs - Ko-fi Minecraft Gensokyo: How to donate: Some other important screenshots: Some Chinese discussions about this topic: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9079609648 https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9084136133 https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9084597214 https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9084778035 https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9084905058 https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9084610785 https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9084199161 https://nga.178.com/read.php?tid=40832062 https://nga.178.com/read.php?tid=40833372

UPDATE ver.1.10c IS OUT https://touhou-project.news/news/11998/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/2400340/__Unfinished_Dream_of_All_Living_Ghost/ - Fixed a bug in network battle. - Added random select. - Fixed a bug in Chiyari's Demon Fire. - Fixed a bug in Achievements. - Fixed a bug in the storyline so that the player loses if the game is a draw. - Fixed a bug with the "Mini Bagua Furnace". - Fixed that the "Watching Over Komainu" was ineffective on most characters. - Fixed the behaviour of Yoshi Mourning's barrier against lasers. - Fixed that most characters did not have their Spirit Strike enhanced by the amount of their Gauge. - Fixed behaviour when pausing at the end of a round. - Fixed a bug that prevented some inputs from working in the manual screen. - Fixed other minor bugs. - Fixed typographical errors. - Overall character performance has been adjusted. Chiyari is more balanced, but Zanmu is broken now. (we really need le sanae emote for such moments) Edit: to make updater work remove readme.txt file in game directory. Edit 2: made more tests, Chiyari is still broken Online mode is still slow, but it seems like it is more stable. Edit 3: I am surprise, a lot of people say there were no testers except ZUN, while there were actually ones. It was stated in the original news article from touhou-project.news. Another source:

Hello. Another update. I found two interesting projects by http://lunarcast.net which were lost. One of them is an attempt to fully remake Danmakufu (Danmakufu EX), but the download link was removed. More info: https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Touhou_Danmakufu_Remake http://lunarcast.net/danmakufu.php http://web.archive.org/web/20221211045727/http://file.lunarcast.net/danmaku/latest.zip (lost) Sadly, this project is lost. What actually surprises me is that other old forgotten danmaku engines such as Danmagine and Musuu no Danmaku are still possible to download and use. But only Danmakufu and LuaSTG survived the test of time. (actually there is also Danmokou but it is not well-known) Another project is really unique. It was named Touhou Danmaku RPG and it tried to combine RPG and Danmaku battles like in mainline games. This project looked quite interesting but Tom decided to cancel this project and move to Danmakufu EX; and, sadly, none of these projects were finished. More info: https://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Danmaku_RPG https://gitlab.com/LunarCast/Modular-Engine/ (lost) http://web.archive.org/web/20200215162050/http://file.lunarcast.net/th_rpg/latest/ (lost) https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,21044.0.html The only similar project I can name is Mystery of the Fairy Rebellion (MotFR). It surprises me that there are not that many projects which try to combine these. (because when I heard about Touhou for the first time (I knew about Undertale by that time) I thought that Touhou was an RPG with bullet hell battles. But I like Touhou the way it is) That is all for now.

Hello. Here is a small update. Recently, I was searching for info about Project Noise / Akizora Synthesis (their games are somewhat Touhou inspired. You can download them from their site, but you need passwords which you can get only from them on Comiket. They still attend them, so you can technically get them). During the research I found out that there was a collaboration among Amusement Makers and nearly unknown ち～むぽらりす (Team Polaris) ( http://polarisam.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-2.html ), and they made an STG which was called Blood_is_Thicker_than_Water. The problem is that there is no way to play this game now: all download links (even to trial versions) are lost. And I didn't manage to find any gameplay videos, only screenshots. So yes, it is lost media. (Team Polaris also tried to make one more game, but it was never finished) Now I wonder how many there are Touhou inspired games and fangames (needless to say about other doujin games) which were nearly unnoticed. Other updates: Also 日陰サバイバン (Phoenix Wright x Touhou game) is lost TheCritical restored their channels

Here we go... Sadly, there is no download link for it. Magus night tried to recreate it, but they deleted all the files: But UltraStory's extra (thcrap patch for TD) has Kasen as boss. This patch changes extra bosses for most games (from 6 to 17 (100% changes extras since IN)). A lot of creators just decide not to publish their works (maybe because they are not polished, not ideal). Other Phantasms and After Extras: Embodiment of Scarlet Devil Phantasm: 0.12m version: https://www.mediafire.com/?7neadvghimm16zf ECL version: EosdPhantasm in thcrap EoSD 3D version: Imperishable Night Phantasm: 0.12m version: https://app.box.com/s/11embw4d6iypemgv3r2w6ycqbggk6dar Mountain of Faith After Extra (no link): Subterranean Animism Phantasm Stage (Subterranean Hatred): 0.12m version: https://www.mediafire.com/download/smi2jq767k41k0f/Mitori.rar ECL version: subhatred_en in thcrap Undefined Fantastic Object Phantasm Stage (no link): Undefined Fantastic Object After Extra (no link): Great Fairy Wars + Double Spoiler (no link): Great Fairy Wars Phantasm Stage: Danmakufu version (no link): ECL version: GFWPhantasm in thcrap Ten Desires Phantasm Stage (Magus night tried to recreate it, but they deleted all the files): Double Dealing Character After Extra Stage (no link): Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom Phantasm: LuaSTG Activity 7 version: Beginning of Another Phantasm Legacy of Double Dealing Kingdom Extras: LoDDK in thcrap, has 3 extras Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom Kaizo DLC (remake extra): 15KaizoDLC in thcrap Hidden Star in Four Season Extra? (French): FestivalCreationCdI in thcrap Hidden Star in Four Season Phantasm: Chinese ECL edition: https://www.mediafire.com/file/331285qk3kbdewt/th16PH.rar Bravi ECL edition: BraviOCOkina in thcrap Danmakufu ph3 edition (no link): Hidden Star in Four Season After Extra: Chinese LuaSTG edition: https://pan.baidu.com/s/1nVzTxK7X6rtyhzYfvR7iFA password: 33i5 Touhou LuaSTG Boss Rush edition (inspired by previous): https://cloud.lilywhite.cc/s/KgaIQ password: asfrp2 Western ECL edition: morpho in thcrap Wily Beast and Weakest Creature After Extra (no link): Unconnected Marketeers Extra?: um_extra in thcrap (better to use UM demo version) Maybe there are some more which I don't remember. There are some other thcrap patches which changes extra. Edit: 古明地麗奈 ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0mGJ7hp4nOKn4_opBPDxdw/videos ) also made some "Phantasms" but 古明地麗奈 never published them.

Hello. It is quite interesting to see here a newcomer, because I don't think this topic is for newcomers (I wonder how you found this thread). I want to give you some recommendations for Touhou games. If you are really new to Danmaku games I can recommend to begin with Touhou 8 Imperishable Night because this game has the easiest Easy, Normal and Hard modes. It would be good to learn how to play the games at first and after that you can begin to learn lore and play games in release (chronological) order. There is also a good fangame which is a tutorial for shmup beginners: It is important to note that not only music but attacks and spellcards' names say a lot about characters. Before Osana Reimu I would recommend to play EoSD (Touhou 6) and PCB (Touhou 7) (+ Extra + Phantasm) and maybe IN (Touhou 8) for more characters' details. There are some other doujins by the same creators but they require to know and understand much more characters and lore. Yes, this is a problem. Where to ask about Touhou? You can try to ask here, community here is friendly. It wasn't always like that, from what I know in around 2007-2012 the community was much more united. About rare releases it is somewhat true (but it is not the main problem). It is quite hard to find something good via YouTube, but I do really recommend to watch MegamanOmega (https://www.youtube.com/user/MegamanOmega184 ) because he makes videos with comments how to pass certain parts in games (which really helped me when I was playing SoEW (yes, the first games I played were Touhou 1-5)), he also makes videos about fangames. AspreyFM is good, GensouChronicle is OK, he makes good videos but sometimes he say some really strange things. There are much more Touhou-Youtubers but most of them don't make content for newcomers (Magiftw may be for newcomers but he mostly read facts from Touhou wiki). It is hard for me to offer something because I don't know if you are afraid of spoilers or not. Again, there are much more of them and some of them collaborate (people like MegaFrog, Megapig9001), but I understand your point. And yes, it quite sad they don't popularize a lot of things. (Though, there are PigeonVoyageur ( https://www.youtube.com/c/PigeonxHunter/videos ) and yeashie ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSRDYLJi4KZgRalkDZFdZzA/videos ) who play a lot of different fangames)) About Reddit, it was not always like that, but from what I know this is a common problem on subreddits. Yes, that is the reason why this site is not popular now. About other circles: there is DoujinStyle (https://doujinstyle.com), there are several posters on nyaa (example: https://nyaa.si/view/1792784 ). It would be a good idea. But if you are in English speaking fandom and say that piracy is good then Touhou Reddit and Touhou Wiki would not like you. But if you are not in English speaking part of fandom it is much easier. Youtube, though, would not care about that. The main problem that the "face of the community" (Touhou Reddit and Touhou Wiki) chose a bad strategy for gatekeeping which lead to that the people who really want to get into Touhou and not just watch fanarts don't know how to do it. Yes, that is what I want too. Surprisingly Chinese Touhou fandom somewhat managed to do it ( https://thwiki.cc ), so this is mostly Western fandom problem. Thank you for your post. It was interesting to watch it from outside. At the end I can offer some really good memes and fan animators if you are interested:

This game can be found on Nyaa (torrent) but I don't know if it has viruses or not.

Recently I decided to find lost media on warosu and Touhou Grand Fangames List. That also led me to other sites with lost media, so I have found a lot of links for a major update. Everything listed below is already added to list (the first post in this topic). What was added: Games: HRtP ver 1.00 C60 trial version of Kioh Gyoku Project Gian - Shuusou Gyoku Prototype Neo Gian ~ Shuusou Gyoku 東方燐迷歌 ～ Phosphorus Hesitates Song Groovy ちるの (Groovy Cirno) 東方秋神録 ~ Every day of Autumn (FOUND) 群弾 (The Crowd Shooting) 東方黒封戯 (Touhoukokuhuugi) 東方賽銭箱 さなシュー (Sanae Shooting) 東方佰鬼録 ～Guest from devildom～ イラスト by D.C.S. Touhou Fan Anime: A lot of new information about Anime Tenchou x Touhou Project (new images, info + art book) わりと動く同人誌 (+ わりと動く同人誌2 and わりと動く同人誌3) + some archives of obscure versions of Touhou fan anime Other media: Touhou Clock メイドさんの日々 DVD by colonel_AKI Animations: [東方] ハルノカケラ (the first ever Touhou 3D animation (2005)) Archive of Touhou flashes. May contain non-Touhou stuff. A lot of info about lost Touhou MMDs

Recently I decided to read Touhou discussions on Twitter (worst mistake of my life) and I can only say that Twitter Touhou fans don't understand each other. I have found so many discussions about who are tRUE fans and who are not. Someone made meme video about "I am a Touhou fan, look, I have a lot of Fumos" (I think the joke is obvious) . And discussions begin about that marketable plushies are bad and that the author of the video is not a tRUE fan. A newcomer began his dive into Touhou from LostWord? What should tRUE fans do? Yes, make fan of the newcomer. And after that Twits appear "why are there so many "secondaries" who doesn't want to understand the beauty of danmaku?" (I really recommend to read all replies from attached link (aggressive2hu found some reasons but not the roots of them)). Such tRUE fans are one of the reasons. How do you think which attitude would appeal more: "Ha-ha, a secondary plays a bad game" or "I see you are interested in Touhou. I you want to see the whole beauty you should play original games. I recommend to begin with PCB or IN or MoF on easy" (if OP doesn't have PC, recommend installing ExaGear or Winulator. Touhou games aren't very laggy even on potato phones). (After all of these I even begin to think that /ja/ is much better and more pure place than Twitter (still /ja/ is not a good place)) (Yes, I understand that such argues are meaningless and unimportant if you compare to most things we have discussed here. But the problem is that a lot of fans from there don't understand that, what is important here is the roots of the problem (most of them we have discussed before)) One of the reasons why this happens is because nearly nobody helps the newcomers. You can say "a lot of years ago I came into Touhou myself without any help", but situation is very different from when it was (for example) 10 years ago. Newcomers don't know from where to begin and what is important in the series. A lot of people don't understand how PC or basic file system work. I have so many example of that: a lot of newcomers don't know why thcrap don't work with games from here (they tried to apply it to .torrent files or they had other difficulties) (thcrap translators help the newcomers with such problems), there are detailed videos how to install Touhou games from here and even after that a lot of people had problems (and the creators of the videos tries to help to solve them). What have you done to help them? Why nearly nobody tries to introduce Touhou shmups not as games for Japanese weirdos, but as good games which are possible to beat and they are fun (just try a little harder) (and yes, losing is fun), and if you understand how to play them you see a beautiful world of danmaku. There are so many scripts which are just waiting for you to try them. (And yes, I will repeat this again and again: have you thought why there are so many Geometry Dash fans (this game is really hard)?) You can just say "don't visit Twitter". And it is obvious for many people who don't live in Western countries because in most cases they have better alternatives (and Touhou communities are better there for example Chinese Touhou fandom. I have examples from Touhou fandom in my country, where after questions like "what anime is this?" what the fans reply? No, they don't say something like "ha-ha, stupid anime fans", they reply "it is a game series. If you are interested I recommend to begin with [a game the poster think is best for beginning, mostly 6, 7, 10, 15, 12.3 or manga]"). But what alternatives for Twitter and Reddit are there in the West and how many people do know about them? I don't think most of newcomers know about them. Also, a lot of Touhou fancontent creators mostly use Twitter, so it is difficult not to use it. And for me it is quite sad that a lot of fans cannot make a step further in Touhou and avoid Twitter and Reddit. And I don't know how we can help them from here. And it is sad that most newcomers won't see this list, which could help them: I wonder do you have ideas how we can help the newcomers?

Hello. I decided to sum up all the updates I made recently. Windshelm and Chocolate Oni decided to hide or delete their videos. More info here: But luckily their content was archived: https://archive.org/details/youtube-channel-archive-windshelm https://archive.org/details/YouTube-Channel-Archive-chocolateoni TheCritical / TheBlindingHeadache / Oriental Demon ( https://web.archive.org/web/20240124130145/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgMqLRD2nYBf2yhffNdlMxQ/videos ) hid all his videos. Mostly he made videos about launching Touhou related content on old devices. He also made good videos about PCB v0.09 (so as the videos are hid now and there are no other videos related to this topic, we need to find a replacement). He also deleted his second channel with playthroughs. https://web.archive.org/web/20230221151342/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdUrCWsMtmg (Forigve me father for I have Clowned) (is lost) (a very funny meme gameplay video by Clownplease (mostly about UM but there were scenes from Soku (or IaMP, I don't remember which fighting game) and LoLK)) Corona Radiance (Touhou inspired game) Windows Phone 7 versions (Full and Demo) are lost. Gameplay: Touhou Flash archive ( https://cloud.cirno.digital/index.php/s/K34oDXkePfktQMY ) is lost: Reversed DDC mod is lost (I just forgot to add this before). Gameplay: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1fx411V7Xi That is all for now.

Thank you for your reply. Cannot agree, because in earlier games those things didn't limit him. The first thing he does for games is soundtrack and only after that the game itself and the whole story. I can give you examples of Touhou styled albums (for games), there the composers aren't limited by those things too and they mostly do great music. Mostly agree. I like new soundtracks there, but I don't like that ZUN for most old characters just reused their old themes (with little changes) or stage themes, so we don't have Tsukasa's theme (in PoFV ZUN made a theme for Tei). (ZUN lost the original version of stage theme for Ran. So did he make a new one for her? No, he tried to make a copy from scratch). My problem with this soundtrack is that it is mostly unoriginal. Agree. I understand that his taste changes from game to game, from album to album, and I don't think it is a problem. Agree. Agree. One of the reason why this topic exists is that ZUN now puts less effort and he is easy going (I do recommend to read previous posts to understand why such attitude may have problems). We should give fair criticism, so next works would be better. And yes, we shouldn't lose hope that ZUN can still do good games and albums.

Somewhat off-topic post about TJD. I just want to share some thoughts about the album and situation around it.

Hello. MotK has found this post and they posted a lot of good criticism there. So now I will reply to each post. Before we start I just want to explain one thing which I think I explained badly. Touhou isn't dying now, but (in my opinion) has some serious problems (which might lead to this state). Reply to williewillus. Reply to Suspicious person (their post is really big and it would be better to read it yourself before reading my reply, I will just discuss key points) There was also not serious post about #CancelZUN (if it was serious, well, you cannot solve problems in the series if you would cancel its creator and developer) Where was a question about gensokyo.org drama. Shortly, there was a drama when they wanted to sue everyone who used materials from their translations in other places (yes, you could get sued for "pirating" from a pirate translation (because for translation you have to modify .dat file (sprites and dialogs) and .exe file (hardcoded strings), the 2 main files +config (only remains music data file))). That was one of reasons (not the main one but still) why thcrap was created. Reply to Felis-Licht Reply to the second Suspicious person's post (again a big one, so read it yourself first) Reply to degradingwindow Reply to the third Suspicious person's post (again it is better to read it yourself before reading my reply) In conclusion, I want to notice that most posters from MotK discussed the parts about fandom and gachas and commercialization. They gave really good points why everything is not that bad now and that problems are not that harsh now (but in my opinion it is better to solve them until it is too late) or give points that some problems aren't problems. Most of posters skipped the part about the franchise problems or just got triggered by seeing Len'en (and didn't connect the paragraph about Len'en with what had been written in several paragraphs before (all of this was written under the same topic, so I thought it was obvious that those paragraphs were connected, but maybe I should redo this part to make it more clear)). Because there were some offers which are prohibited by ZUN or Ruw, or there were some thoughts which contradict with this part. But aside that the criticism was actually good. I wanted to show that everything is not lost NOW, but there are problems which can become much more serious if we won't solve them now (how Suspicious person noticed it is a worrypost not a doompost). But reading the replies helped me to understand that I failed. There were a lot of examples that showed that everything is not bad now (and this is great). My goal was to show that beside that there are some problems which aren't that noticeable now, but may become unsolvable later. Most posters noticed that the whole game industry has the problems which are similar to Touhou ones, with which I can only agree. But I hoped that Touhou is agile enough not to be part of those problems. Alas, Touhou has the same problems now and I wrote about that in original post. I have seen some people who say that Touhou is part of the problem, while "true" doujin scene is not, well, I showed in the post that those problems affect everything. (But there is still a hope that Touhou and doujin scene would climb out of the hole). Thank you all for your replies this discussion was really interesting.

Thank you for your reply, your post have a lot of good points. About the state of current game industry, totally agree. About shifting from PC to phones, somewhat agree, but it could be easily solved if most people would use ExaGear or Winlator or Mobox (if you have a potato phone like me you can play most PC games from 90s and early 00s without problems, if you have a good phone, well you can try to play Elden Ring and Cyberpunk 2077 in 20-30 fps. And yes even this potato phone can run mainline Touhou games from 7 to 12 in 40-60 fps, from 13 to 15 in 30-50 fps, from 16 in 25-50 (I believe in ECL supremacy)). But the problem of those emulators that they are not too convenient (and not stable with some games). Totally agree. Especially with that finding things is harder now, if you don't know about them. So that is the reason why I began making a list. I don't agree with Dead Internet Theory, because if you don't use Twitter or Reddit you won't notice these problems (except TikTok-like algorithms). I somewhat agree that there are some places each you couldn't reach using search engines (I think Discord developers wanted to make Discord servers more private than for example Facebook groups). About mature content, it is not a big problem of Touhou (in table you gave there is a mistake, in Touhou line it should be 8,29% of R18, still it is more than the previous time) because R18 is a big part of doujin scene (the biggest doujin archive I know (>400TB) mostly consists of such stuff, also a big number of games for PC98 are NSFW). It maybe shouldn't be that accessible. What I think is bad that Touhou fandom has one of youngest audience (in average 25 years old). I don't consider Memories of Phantasm as a big problem because it was made for fans (if don't like it you don't have to watch it) not for newcomers. The problem is that most fans and newcomers don't understand that, so fans recommend newcomers to watch MoP, and you know the consequences. The only somewhat good alternative is Summer day's dream (if you forget about the scene with Patchouli). With LW and Reddit agree. About Twitter, it is a problem of its design. open-source alternatives also have this problem, for example misskey.io . I could say "don't use Twitter", but the problem that a lot of Touhou content creators make announces there. About Pixiv and boorus somewhat agree (but what have you expected from them?) Agree. About recent games quality, agree. I could say that if he needs 3 years to make a game we can wait, but HBM and UDoALG look like they were made in less than half a year. About TJD not really agree it surpassed my expectations (I expected nearly nothing from it). From what I know even the haters say this album is the best thing ZUN made since 2017. I can only agree about the story. About the gameplay mostly agree (in UDoALG card system isn't abused. Borders, Charge 2 and Charge 3 are). About Touhou 6-8 ZUN says that he cannot place them on Steam because he lost source code (keeping in mind that he doesn't update Steam games it is hard to say it is main reason) (also imagine installing Steam version of Touhou 6 and not be able to launch it because of locale and Windows 10/11). About your plan, I agree with "General Touhou Supervisor" thing but I don't agree with even more commercialization, I don't want Touhou to lose the remaining "doujiness" it has. About "new multi-platform bullet hell engine" you are too optimistic about ZUN, he wasn't able to implement replay system in HBM and UDoALG while you are talking about other platforms (which for example don't have DirectX support, which means ZUN would have to learn how to use OpenGL/Vulkan and write a new graphic system from scratch). "finality to the Hifuu Club story-line" would mean the final for Hifuu Club, which means ZUN has to make another story or there would be no more albums with stories. I think ZUN more prefer not ending stories, so I think we won't see the final soon. My idea is turning Touhou into folklore (I think SCP is a good example of internet folklore). (I described my vision in PS). I don't know about Pokemon, but for me it isn't hard to avoid such content, because I rarely visit places where I can find it. The only problem that monsters don't avoid child content now. Aside that it is a good example. Agree. As I wrote I also work on the list like that (it has more than 14500 links now). If you have something to share too, please DM me, so we can try to merge our lists and combine our efforts (I hope together we can do much more). But if we manage to gather a lot of people and attention we may hope for "The Place" be a thing.

Thank you for your opinion. I am grad to see criticism of my post. I understand that we may not to care about the state of Touhou and just watch what will happen next. I understand that internet and fandoms are just part (a small one) of our real lives. I understand that if something bad happens to franchise we can move to next one. I understand that this site is not that big and not many people visit forums here. But for some reason Touhou became something important for me. And it would be sad for me if this series would die. I am a little guy, and literally noname outside of this forum. I cannot do anything big alone, but I thought that doing a small step for changing the situation for better is better than doing nothing at lot. I hope that this discussion won't just stay in this "little circle" and would go upper (but for now it is just hope). Yes, I understand that I cannot change the situation alone greatly. I made some purposes which aren't too realistic, the others are somewhat more achievable. What is it? I still cannot describe it. Maybe a hope that after this little step there would be more bigger steps. Maybe stupidity. Maybe I am just overthinking everything. Who knows? And again, thank you for your reply, I really appreciate it.

Thank you for your reply. Mostly agree with you. I understand that each series has its rises and falls, and that we probably will never have the second golden age (still hoping for seeing the silver age). Touhou is far from death now, but the problem that Touhou is slowly losing its main Japanese fanbase. I wonder if there are a lot of successors? I can only name Len'en, Undertale and BA. I thought about comparing Touhou and Doom community. From what I know, there are still new records in old games, hardcore fans still are trying to beat the impossible challenges, Classic Doom community creates around 30 WADs a week, while Chinese LusSTG community creates around 15 scripts a week. But the problem here is that John Romero and other developers don't impose new strange restrictions, while ZUN and Ruw do. Thank you for your interesting thoughts.

Thank you for your reply. I am grad you liked this post and and I would be grad for your analysis. I have read most of your threads before I created an account here. You really made great analysis there. Thank you for your reply. I agree that uniting all the fans nearly impossible now. So I purposed a little more realistic solutuon (only unite creators). I didn't thought about a language factor, a really good point (but from what I know that is not that big problem in other fandoms. Mostly agree. I hope correctly understood the second part. I don't think the age is not a serious problem I think, because if the series is really good there would be fans even after 50 years. But yes, newer Touhou games are very different from older ones (not everyone likes it, but for me it is okey if they are made well). Also kind of ironic that ZUN wanted to create a shmup for PC98 which had way more bullets than Caves shmups. Agree with everything. Agree with everything. Yes, it is a big problem. That is one of the main reasons why fans leave the fandom. Yes, you are right. He also knows about Chinese community, because he visited China and met Touhou fans there. (Am I the only one who has strange feelings about this video? Agree with all. And that is a problem that they are that used to gachas. I thought that was obvious: mostly thwiki.cc Comiket: https://thwiki.cc/Comic_Market Reitaisai: https://thwiki.cc/Reitaisai Kouroumu: https://thwiki.cc/东方红楼梦 Meikasai: https://thwiki.cc/东方名华祭 Autumn Reitaisai: https://thwiki.cc/博丽神社秋季例大祭 Hakudenkai 2022: https://extra.hakudenkai.games Hakudenkai 2023: https://hakudenkai.games/ Again, thank you for your interesting thoughts.

Thank you for your reply. Yes, Touhou fandom has not fallen yet, and the more people will be aware of those problems the more chances we have to make Touhou fandom blooming again. Sadly, yes. Because this is a pirate site, and after DMCA /r/touhou and Touhou Wiki decided to support Ruw's decision. There is even a group who wrote doujin circles to help them with DMCA. They even created hakureishrine.org (it is just redirect to Steam, and yes they still pay for this domain just for joke). Thank you too, for your reply. You understood it correctly. Just one more detail, there were dramas between main Touhou websites even between main websites. Not only that but also some strange limitations from ZUN and Ruw. You understood it correctly. Somewhat yes. The first solution also include forgetting about dramas at least between creators, so they could work together. Those are just my proposals and they maybe not ideal. I want to bring up this topic for discussion to find the best solution from realistic ones. Thank you for your reply. I also think that persuading ZUN now is nearly impossible. Touhou is mostly made for Japanese fans and ZUN mostly listen only to them, so without their help it would be impossible to do it. I understand it, but I don't have better solutions for now, I am sorry.

I think we should have a good talk about this topic. I have had a lot of thinking about this topic for a long time. Recent twits by nmlgc and aggressive2hu inspired me to do more research to finally build a full picture. I understood that we should act now until it is too late. The more info I found for this post, the worse the situation became. And it is not just about Touhou, problems are much more serious, but mostly I will talk about Touhou because I really love Touhou and I hope to change situation for better at least for Touhou. The goal of this post is not to bring hate towards anybody in the fandom or ZUN, but to help people understand the roots of the problems to resolve them. CAUTION!! CAUTION!! CAUTION!! If you still want to believe that there are no serious problems in Touhou fandom, and still want to believe in Touhou and doujin magic, well this post may bring you down. You have been warned. CAUTION!! CAUTION!! CAUTION!! Before we start, I hope to see criticism which will explain where I am right and where I am wrong, because this topic is rarely discussed. Thank you. Have you noticed that something is not right? Have you noticed that there are much less new Touhou fangames, doujinshi and doujin music than for example 8 years ago? Have you noticed that a lot of new fan content is nearly unnoticed? Have you noticed that fandom is not united and split? Have you noticed that last Touhou games are rushed and story is less well-written? Doujin events examples: I suppose that everyone noticed at least some of those problems but I am surprised that nearly nobody tried to analyse why these have happened. Well, there are two main causes of the problems: the fandom and the franchise itself. Fandom: But there are other problems that may make people haters of not just fandom, but of Touhou itself. Franchise: But what I can say for sure if this topic is unnoticed and left undiscussed we won't be able to change the situation for better. I thought that Touhou was an islet of safety in current sea of crisis of mass culture, but alas it is already under the water. But wait, let's be clever and take a step further (unlike those haters): what about non-Touhou doujin scene, what is happening there? (Spoiler: the situation is similar there): But everything is not lost! We can change the situation for better if we will stop being scattered and will work together. The worst thing now is just giving up. Thank you for reading this. I would be really glad to receive criticism, corrections and proposals. I know this topic is controversial, but I think that it must be discussed. I just want Touhou fandom to become better. If you have any good ideas how to change the whole situation for better feel free to share them. Also feel free to share this post. There are also some other related thoughts about this topic: Afterwords: If after reading this post you want to hate ZUN or anybody else then I think you didn't understand this post. This post shows that hate didn't change the situation for better and only made it worse. We don't need to hate, We need to act. For the fans who are Still with us.