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Posted
2 hours ago, Tenkko said:

Not sure if it's relevant to this topic but I remembered last year (around May) I did a Pixiv search to see which character has the most horny art. Because.

This is the top 50 I think? (Left one by total; right one by percentage of all works)

Oh, this is actually quite relevant for that kind of fanservice. It reminds me of another thing seen long ago on Reddit, on a similar issue:

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DISCLAIMER: I DO NOT PROMOTE PORN OF ANY CHARACTERS THAT HAVE APPEARANCES OF SMALL GIRLS, this is just the numbers of lewded post that I have researched on rule34 . xxx

Rule 34 (as of June - 2021)

GAMES

Main Characters

  • Reimu: 4428
  • Marisa: 2503
     

6/EoSD

  • Rumia: 901
  • Daiyousei: 459
  • Cirno: 876
  • Meiling: 1435
  • Koakuma: 1142
  • Patchouli: 3456
  • Sakuya: 3843
  • Remilia: 2247
  • Flandre: 2020
     

7/PCB

  • Letty: 253
  • Chen: 450
  • Alice: 2655
  • Lily: 140
  • Lyrica: 95
  • Lunasa: 322
  • Merlin: 180
  • Youmu: 2223
  • Yuyuko: 1718
  • Ran: 1379
  • Yukari: 2742
     

7.5/IaMP

  • Suika: 785
     

8/IN

  • Wriggle: 387
  • Mystia: 554
  • Keine: 1022
  • Tewi: 683
  • Udongein: 3046
  • Eirin: 1061
  • Kaguya: 652
  • Mokou: 902
     

9/PoFV

  • Medicine: 40
  • Yuuka: 1829
  • Komachi: 761
  • Shiki Eiki: 597
     

10/MoF

  • Shizuha: 173
  • Minoriko: 227
  • Hina: 564
  • Nitori: 1051
  • Momiji: 2183
  • Aya: 2363
  • Sanae: 4046
  • Kanako: 703
  • Suwako: 990
     

10.5/SWR

  • Iku: 625
  • Tenshi: 1227
     

11/SA

  • Kisume: 66
  • Yamame: 342
  • Parsee: 657
  • Yuugi: 913
  • Satori: 1879
  • Orin: 1095
  • Okuu: 1368
  • Koishi: 1419
     

12/UFO

  • Nazrin: 665
  • Kogasa: 761
  • Ichirin: 118
  • UNZAN:9
  • Murasa: 279
  • Shou: 342
  • Byakuren: 1158
  • Nue: 790
     

12.5/DS

  • Hatate: 583
     

12.8/FW

  • Luna: 178
  • Star: 217
  • Sunny: 164
     

13/TD

  • Kyouko: 272
  • Yoshika: 234
  • Seiga: 366
  • Tojiko: 166
  • Futo: 348
  • Miko: 399
  • Mamizou: 209
     

13.5/HM

  • Kokoro: 567
     

14/DDC

  • Wakasagihime: 112
  • Sekibanki: 185
  • Kagerou: 494
  • Benben: 40
  • Yatsuhashi: 36
  • Seija: 142
  • Shinmyoumaru: 71
  • Raiko: 71
     

14.5/ULiL

  • Sumireko: 86
     

15/LoLK

  • Seiran: 69 (guys, please don't...)
  • Ringo: 48
  • Doremy: 97
  • Sagume: 127
  • CLOWNPIECE: 289
  • Junko: 178
  • Hecatia: 111
     

15.5/AoCF

  • Jo'on: 45
  • Shion: 72
     

16/HSiFS

  • Eternity: 5
  • Nemuno: 22
  • Aunn: 30
  • Narumi: 16
  • Mai: 25
  • Satono: 29
  • Okina: 29
  • OKINA_BUT_STANDING_UP:_probably 29
     

17/WBaWC

  • Eika: 1 (GOOD)
  • Urumi: 93
  • Kutaka: 20
  • Yachie: 45
  • Mayumi: 27
  • Keiki: 42
  • Saki: 24
     

18/UM

  • Mike: 23
  • Takane: 9
  • Sannyo: 5
  • Misumaru: 3
  • Tsukasa: 34
  • Megumu: 12
  • Chimata: 2
  • Momoyo: 27


 

PRINT WORKS

  • A/CoLA
  • Rinnosuke: 171
     

B/SSiB (Lunarians stories)

  • Reisen(SSiB): 43
  • Toyohime: 60
  • Yorihime: 115
     

C/WaHH

  • Kasen: 905
     

D/FS

  • Kosuzu: 124
     

E/PMiSS

  • Akyuu: 179


F/LE

  • Miyoi: 6


CDs

  • Maribel: 127
  • Renko: 180


NOTE: It seems like the final bosses weren't as popular as other earlier bosses in the same game (except for 12 because Byakuren is Byakuren). Also I know other sites exist but I don't want to make my research harder




(And the thread itself https://www.reddit.com/r/touhou/comments/px788q/statistic_about_the_number_of_rule_34_posts_of/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)

 


But for me, I think I'd be satisfied with just seeing a mature, tall and dignified Eiki in general. Or just an Akyuu that looks like her canonical 27 years old (if she would indeed look like a mature woman, and manga just went for clasic manga artistic/stylistic liberties and make everyone look younger than supposed to be). That would be enough fan service. 

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Watching again through Touhou M-1 Grand Prix (at least the videos available on YouTube), there have been some moments I might call fanservice, but which were played for laughs, and so I am perfectly fine with then:

  • in Spin Kappa - "Mischievous Kappa" (M-1 Grand Prix 6th Edition): one of the scenes has Nitori basically stripping Hina behind a semi-transparent paravan and body-painting her. It took me a while to realize it was actually just body paint, but Hina was actually looking ver good in the "sports outfit" (bonus for the following "FIGHT ON, CHIKUWA CLUB!" gag)

 

  • in Binary Drop - "Last Brutal Manzai" (M1 Grand Prix 12th Edition finals): I guess Eiki barely being covered with a towel for most of the video while nervously waiting for a tattoo counts? Also in universe, I guess the public might have had a great time at the end seeing her "bear her body to assert dominance".

 

  • in YuuTen Paradise - "Handling Fans" (M-1 Grand Prix 9th Edition): Tenshi decides to take a shower live, in front of the audience, to because she thought she was not "clean enough/disinfected" before the dialogue with Yuuka. And have the second have of their skit. All I can say is "suddenly yuri". Again, the reactions of the auditorium might have been interesting, even if everyone tried to hide it. Also Yuuka: "Is it a problem if I got excited?"

 

  • in Cat Stone - "Battle at Ganryu Island" (M01 Grand Prix 4th edition): Koishi and Orin are trying to reenact a famous sword duel, and somehow the two of them end up with V-necks o their kimonos. Blurred boobs ensues, and Orin asking if it's not "too gory" - "Isn't that too gory?! / Why would we have V-necks? / V-necks are awesome! / Aren't our ●● hanging out? / Don't say that! / With these V-necks."

 

  • in Purely Hell - "Quick and Efficient Purification Manzai" (M-1 Grand Prix 11th Edition) - not to that much of an extent, but it was funny to see Junko and Hecatia arguing over a T-shirt, with Jun looking the wrong way when in a discussion. Also, apparently there is " Hentai of Junko from the Xia dynasty or something" on the (in-universe) M-1 Grand Prix page. Verdict: unexpected T-shirt pulling & abuse/10 (just kidding, the skit in itself has been extremely fun to watch)

 

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"My face is up here! My shirt won't understand you!"


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Hecatia: "I'm gonna dunk you in Haiter later!"
Junko: "That's bleach! Don't bully your T-shirt!"

 

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Posted

Don't know if this counts, but in the manga monster musume, while hanging out with someone the main human kimihito, comes across a group of cosplayers looking very familiar, most notably a familiar looking bird

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Posted
7 hours ago, Darksymphony777 said:

Don't know if this counts, but in the manga monster musume, while hanging out with someone the main human kimihito, comes across a group of cosplayers looking very familiar, most notably a familiar looking bird

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7 hours ago, Darksymphony777 said:

And here's another one showing reimu, Marisa, meiling and kasen wearing byakurens's outfit for some reason (also the previous picture also had yuugi)

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Interesting posts! I think I have heard somewhere about this comic before, and the fact it counts as a Touhou reference. So I guess it can be counted as a bit of fanservice for both series. 

 have honestly focused so much of the "horny type" of fanservice so much, yet I forgot there are so many other kinds of dong it. But if I brought that up, I went again through Alternative Facts in Eastern Utopia, and found some... interesting stuff going on there. 

Remember, this was featured in official material:

 

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For some reason, this reminds me a bit of the "Girl on Page 3" segment of any newspaper from long ago. Which is odd, but also a bit funny too

 

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I don't know how to put it in words but I'll try my best to be precise.

There's a lot more fanservice to than just your "typical exposure". I wondered if the purpose of fanservice is that it's supposed to pander to the fans. For example a character that the fans love in this case, "Cirno". She was in Hisoutensoku, Great Fairy War and Hidden Star in Four Seasons and in Perfect memento In Strict Sense albeit she was hardly important in Gensokyo settings. Thus, making her the fanservice character of 9 ball jokes.   

 

Truly is Yin & Yang. 

Posted
19 minutes ago, Gou the frog said:

I don't know how to put it in words but I'll try my best to be precise.

There's a lot more fanservice to than just your "typical exposure". I wondered if the purpose of fanservice is that it's supposed to pander to the fans. For example a character that the fans love in this case, "Cirno". She was in Hisoutensoku, Great Fairy War and Hidden Star in Four Seasons and in Perfect memento In Strict Sense albeit she was hardly important in Gensokyo settings. Thus, making her the fanservice character of 9 ball jokes.   

 

Huh, you very much remind me of a comment received on Reddit once I started the discussion there too. It was also about Cirno. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Huh, you very much remind me of a comment received on Reddit once I started the discussion there too. It was also about Cirno. 

Oh, I presume touhou enjoyers have the same thought process every once in a while. 

About Mamizou, she appears in the canon work 80% of the time but in fanon, it's very rare to see her in the wild. I thought it's somewhat related to fanservice one way or another at least in Zun's view. (Wait doesn't this belong to another discussion) 

Truly is Yin & Yang. 

Posted
7 hours ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Interesting posts! I think I have heard somewhere about this comic before, and the fact it counts as a Touhou reference. So I guess it can be counted as a bit of fanservice for both series. 

 have honestly focused so much of the "horny type" of fanservice so much, yet I forgot there are so many other kinds of dong it. But if I brought that up, I went again through Alternative Facts in Eastern Utopia, and found some... interesting stuff going on there. 

Remember, this was featured in official material:

Honestly it does get a little ecchi (monster musume is a somewhat horny manga) a character named papi, a harpy proceeds to get groped by another character named suu who is a slime while cosplayed as okuu (suu is the costume since....well she can do stuff no other slime can). Which gets overshadowed by the fact that the manga also did a metal gear solid reference by having snek girl miia hide in a cardboard box

..while also dressed as snake. Yes this is a real thing, if you want I can provide proof

Posted
On 4/18/2022 at 8:46 PM, Darksymphony777 said:

Honestly it does get a little ecchi (monster musume is a somewhat horny manga) a character named papi, a harpy proceeds to get groped by another character named suu who is a slime while cosplayed as okuu (suu is the costume since....well she can do stuff no other slime can). Which gets overshadowed by the fact that the manga also did a metal gear solid reference by having snek girl miia hide in a cardboard box

..while also dressed as snake. Yes this is a real thing, if you want I can provide proof

I'm not sure if I want to see the proof but sounds somewhat interesting? 

I'll brace for the worst.

Truly is Yin & Yang. 

Posted

One more interesting Byakuren fact. People consider as a bit of fanservice the fact she has PC-98 inspired spell-cards. In a way, it actually makes a bit of sense, given that she was sealed away in Makai for a long time. To quote the wiki about those spell-cards:
 

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  • During her second-to-last (fourth) spell card on Easy, the stars under the health bar show she has two lives left. She does, but only on higher difficulties. The same spell card looks like one of Shinki's attack patterns.
  • Byakuren's Lotus Butterfly seems to be a reference to YuugenMagan's evil eyes. The two share a similar presentation and shoot similar danmaku patterns. This, of course, makes sense as Byakuren, like YuugenMagan, appears in Makai.

 

Guess it counts as fanservice due to the fact it was also created in order to appeal to old PC-98 era players?

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Posted
2 hours ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Guess it counts as fanservice due to the fact it was also created in order to appeal to old PC-98 era players?

It count as fan service for the old ones.

I think if Zun make Mima returned to the mine series, that'll be the biggest fanservice in the history of Touhou. I think that she once appeared in an official manga? (Memories are a bit foggy). It's a win-win for both Zun and the community. Considering she is the one character that haven't showed up the games yet from the Pc-98 era. The old fans will appreciate it and I Gou too shall since she is one of my first character that I've seen after joining Touhou.

Truly is Yin & Yang. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Gou the frog said:

I think that she once appeared in an official manga? (Memories are a bit foggy)

Indeed, Mima did appear once in the Windows era. However, it was on the cover for Akyuu's Untouched Score vol. 4

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Posted
20 minutes ago, CountVonNumenor said:

Indeed, Mima did appear once in the Windows era. However, it was on the cover for Akyuu's Untouched Score vol. 4

I was right after all, thank you for clarifying it further.

Truly is Yin & Yang. 

Posted
12 hours ago, Gou the frog said:

I'm not sure if I want to see the proof but sounds somewhat interesting? 

I'll brace for the worst.

Monster Musume Metal Gear | Anime Amino

 

did you mean metal gear snek or okuu harpy cosplayer getting slimed

 

 

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Posted
8 hours ago, Darksymphony777 said:

did you mean metal gear snek or okuu harpy cosplayer getting slimed

I was expecting both of them actually. This being in the horny zone worried me a bit.

Truly is Yin & Yang. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Gou the frog said:

This being in the horny zone worried me a bit.

just be lucky i didn't show the previous page where we saw a naked harpy chest, i may be dumb but i'm not stupid to show THAT

Posted
On 4/21/2022 at 6:42 AM, Darksymphony777 said:

just be lucky i didn't show the previous page where we saw a naked harpy chest, i may be dumb but i'm not stupid to show THAT

I think marking it as spoiler would have been the best option. However, I am not here to complain - that would be pure hypocrisy. 
Now I wonder where this discussion could be taken next, if there is still interest for it. 

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On 4/16/2022 at 7:22 PM, Tenkko said:

Not sure if it's relevant to this topic but I remembered last year (around May) I did a Pixiv search to see which character has the most horny art. Because.

This is the top 50 I think? (Left one by total; right one by percentage of all works)

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Thanks again for providing research, it's interesting to see even if I hate this type of content. I feel bad for Kasen, Sanae and others.

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By noticing a few of the stats in that chart:

Sanae - 13.7%
Eirin - 13%
Byakuren - 12.6%
Reisen Udongein Inaba - 12%
Ran Yakumo -11.8%
Yorihime & Toyohime - 11.6% (each)
Patchouli - 11.3%
Yuugi - 10.5%
Yukari - 10.15%
Sakuya - 10.1%
Aya - 10%
Iku - 9.87%
Raiko - 9.85%
Keine - 9.81%
Yuuka - 9.61%

Now time for the observations. Some of these numbers seem to be rather obvious (I will be mostly try to refer to just the fanservice kind of having undressed characters, and try stay as far as possible from anything involving intercourse unless it becomes relevant):
 

  • Sanae did get some sort of "fanservice" reputation in the fandom, and I do not understand the reason why. Many people I ask refer to her as "Reimu, but fanservice", "Reimu, but with boobs" or simply as "doujin fam". Did this come to be just because of one doujin in which Sanae is called a "good girl"? Even the wiki mentions that doujin when referring to her fanon material. 
  • I am not very sure how Eirin got so high on her spot, even if it is just percentage-wise. Maybe he fact she might be as old as the world and her more womanly look have been a factor to ensure people they will not just end up drawing CP? (it is not like like Eirin is usually placed in the "old ladies club" of Gensokyo)
  • Byakuren is interesting. I can imagine that her biker outfit from the fighters was a boost to this, but I am not sure how far you can actually go from that towards proper R-18 material.
  • Reisen is probably another one of the more (in)famous cases. I know she is a bunny girl and all, therefore fanservice and smut fuel. An for further reference, I even did get a bit into the famous "Drunkards in Eintei" doujin, from where we got the famous "I'm just a useless little bunny, only good for my sex appeal", in order to see what gave people the decision to feature her so much in smut. It is funny how one simple line in a doujin just encouraged the tendency of having Reisen featured in H-doujins and art. 
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The (in)famous line in its original context (spoiler for obvious reasons)

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  • About Ran Yakumo, I am not very sure what to say. Probably association with Kitsune usually shaping as attractive women? Also the fanon meme of the "suppatenko" (exhibitionist Ran)  or something...
  • Yorihime & Toyohime -  I am honestly amazed they even get H-material, given how unpopular they are in the fandom. Maybe it is more about revenge stuff (not gonna mention the r-word) and that 1% made out of Fusu art (gonna get there soon)?
  • Patchouli - probably coming from an interesting concept we, humans, have created - "the forbidden fruit". In this case, the principle is simple: the more clothes a character has on, covering everything, the greater the desire to see them without those clothes. This principle might work on all 2hus, given how much ZUN likes covering them with as much clothing as possible. And since Patchouli has all those robes on her...it becomes obvious.  Is this how it works, or logic leaves me on this one?
  • Yuugi - really not sure what to say on her. Big buff woman, I guess?
  • Yukari - the reasons seem to be obvious. However, I cannot really come up with them right now. A bit of help?
  • Sakuya - a bit and not so surprising at the same time to be in the category of characters with so much "saucy" works around her. How did this come to be? Is i a mutation of the pads meme? The only one such work I know is the one about Sakuya getting stuck through a wall (typical H-trope from what I can see - how do people even manage to get half stuck into something, especially a wall?) and people doing...stuff to her. 
  • Aya(yayaya) - look who fate has turned on... The one character fans tend to portray as a pervert taking panty shots has become victim herself of perversion (I am totally not paid by Hatate to say this). Anyway, interesting to see her placed so high on the top. Guess protagonist + nice design + already established fanon?
  • I will place Iku and Raiko together, since what I am going to say is mostly identical. None of them is very popular in terms of character. However, it is truly a surprise to see them ranking so high in terms of percent compared to other characters. They are also in my list of favorite characters, and so got my attention. I guess Raiko still has the fact she is a redhead going for her to motivate such "artistic" works.
  • Keine - seriously, what can I say about her? I really have no idea.
  • Yuuka - oh yeah. Also huh, another one of the 2hus from my personal top 10 favorites. I guess her fanon depiction has become fuel for some fetishes, and so a lot of fanservice? From what I have seen on Danbooru, most of her NSFW material tends to go from 0 to 100 real quick. From very mild, to very much not suitable for life and "this is such a bad day to have eyes".



(oh God, I finally finished analyzing them; the more I go, the more I feel drained of any inspiration on what to write; buckle up, I have one more paragraph to go)


Earlier, I mentioned the artist Fusu. I think he really fits in the definition of "fanservice". First time I saw his art, that was on r/touhou during the Fusu posting craze that ended up in a controversy. At the time, I was only familiar with his corny, POV kind of images where 2hus confess their love to the viewer. And and part in the fanservice things seemed to finish there, especially after checking his Pixiv and seeing it was clean from anything NSFW. However, I was wrong. VERY WRONG. After randomly finding his works on Danbooru too, I realized there's more about him, and that I only had "no NSFW" active on my Pixiv. Now, there seems to be a pattern in his POV works

  1. Have the characters confess their feelings to the viewer
  2. "Get to action", again in POV format (I cannot fully confirm yet this is the case, but it seems like every time he draws step 1, he also does the step 2 as well). Quite funny the way things escalate from simply talking to doing...things. 



Time to take a little rest, then see if there is any other reply I can answer to. I still have some free time. 

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Should I have pinged Tenkko in order to bring him in and continue the talk based on his original stats? 


Edit: you know what? I'll just do it. @Tenkko and @Isaac you might find the points explained above interesting, unless you have your own opinions on why that results. Also, I took just some of the characters, the ones I though to be more obvious picks (and so easier to explain), along with some that are also in my top 10 favorites. I intentionally avoided fairies and anyone else child-looking from the list since I was not really in the mood of trying to explain why someone would create CP (that's an entirely different can of worms, and goes all the way back in this thread to "why the Japanese are so ok with drawing hentai even of child characters")


And on an unrelated note: I know that my opinion of fanservice is mixed, depending on what the content is, but I think this one is quite cute as a drawing in itself. I think this one counts on the "for comedic purpose" category, as nothing lewd is going on (unfortunately, I really cannot find anymore who drew this image of Mokou and Keine - credit to whoever drew this)

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Important distinction between suggestive or fanservice-y and you know, zorn, that's why I didn't know if the chart was relevant. The former usually doesn't get the R-18 tag.

Anyways UH. I mean you said it. There's sometimes correlation between the amount of suggestive stuff and how popular a character is, and sometimes there isn't. Others are favored for their appearance or ideas that get associated with them. Sometimes an artist becomes popular for drawing one character and others may follow suit, or a certain situation like fusu does yknow there's a lot to consider.

If you wanna get into the whole uh "why is this a thing" fuck dude idk. Though it's not always... entirely sexual? Or even not at all.

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Sorry for not responding earlier Count, there was more I wanted to discuss in the other threads.

The observations you made for those with higher percentages are interesting. It seems that most of the 'mature appearing' characters, according to the fandom, get more of that fanart. As tenko said, the situations could also contribute to more fanart such as Aya being depicted as a pervert.

Fusu:

I didn't know the person's name until now but their artwork was one of the first touhou related ones I found on Pixiv. I thought the fantasy confessions were really cute and I have some of them saved too. I was wondering if they were taking a break when I also realised that they've been making R-18 content all this time. I found out earlier this year but I never knew since my settings were kept safe. Guess I won't be making a cute commission from them anymore, shame.

That artwork of Mokou and Keine isn't too bad but it's an anime cliché I'm not a fan of. I often see this with the other characters too but it's mostly insulting.

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I am finally back. Time to reply...
 

3 hours ago, Tenkko said:

Important distinction between suggestive or fanservice-y and you know, zorn, that's why I didn't know if the chart was relevant. The former usually doesn't get the R-18 tag.

Sure, there is indeed a difference between the two. However, the difference is at time so shady you no longer know whether to place some one way or another. As for suggestive not getting the R-18 treatment, I guess there is a limit of how suggestive it can be? But this reminds re of the discussion on gacha/anime art in general, with the whole "totally not NSFW/too suggestive (like clothes covering exactly the nipples -apparently covering them makes an image family-frindly, even if you still basically have a bare boob - and private part down there), but somehow still family-frindly". As for words to replace "p*rn", I usually like to jokingly use "corn", especially since a website called CornHub exists (I did not misspell it, there really is a website about different kinds of corn in parody of the other website with similar sounding name).  
 

3 hours ago, Tenkko said:

Anyways UH. I mean you said it. There's sometimes correlation between the amount of suggestive stuff and how popular a character is, and sometimes there isn't. Others are favored for their appearance or ideas that get associated with them

What was UH? It is interesting though how some of the characters ended up becoming more popular in terms of inappropriate art. Like what made Sanae become the "doujin fam", same story with Reisen (even if for this one seems more obvious with the whole bunny girl thing, and the fact bunny girls have already been associated with inappropriate materials at least since the beginning of the Playboy magazine, so like 70 years ago). 
 

3 hours ago, Tenkko said:

Sometimes an artist becomes popular for drawing one character and others may follow suit

Probably the best example I know is Sazanami Mio, aka the guy who has always been drawing Youmu and is known for almost religiously drawing her. When I first found his art and Pixiv page, I used to nickname it "the cult of Youmu". But I was perfectly fine with it, as I like his/her woks, and Myon is a character I am fond of.
 

3 hours ago, Tenkko said:

If you wanna get into the whole uh "why is this a thing" fuck dude idk.

Yeah, that is a good question. Without making a lot of analysis, I would just say "people are horny". I just think there is a difference between being horny and drawing smut of an adult, and a whole different story when you depict a child doing naughty stuff that basically counts as cp. But like you said, it's not always about sexual stuff, so I guess... idk. Still a little questionable unless your intention was that to make a character art study or anything akin.

 

2 hours ago, Isaac said:

Sorry for not responding earlier Count, there was more I wanted to discuss in the other threads.

No problem. Welcome back, and thank you for the contributions to other threads. Better later than never. 
 

2 hours ago, Isaac said:

The observations you made for those with higher percentages are interesting. It seems that most of the 'mature appearing' characters, according to the fandom, get more of that fanart. As tenko said, the situations could also contribute to more fanart such as Aya being depicted as a pervert.

Yeah, that is quite the interesting part. Many of the characters on the top tend to be generally depicted as more mature, sometimes going into the "mommy trope". Again, avoiding the fairies and such (how did they even end up so high on the list? looking at you, Star, Luna and Sunny...), one other character I did notice but did not talk about, despite being one of my favorite, is Eiki, who scored a 7.51% on the list. At least from daily visits on Danbooru, one thing was to be learnt: if you see art of a mature Eiki, there's like 80-90% (depending on the day) for it to be smut. As if that is the only reason for people to not draw her as the little angry loli (even if there's smut of that too). Initially, I thought I saw Akyuu on the list, and was going to talk about that and say it makes sense she like the only 2hu for which we have a clear age, and therefore an adult, but then I noticed she was not listed in either of the images. However, Kosuzu scored impressively high, with over 12% of her content. That is literally every 1 in 10 Kosuzu pics. 
 

2 hours ago, Isaac said:

Fusu:

I didn't know the person's name until now but their artwork was one of the first Touhou related ones I found on Pixiv. I thought the fantasy confessions were really cute and I have some of them saved too. I was wondering if they were taking a break when I also realized that they've been making R-18 content all this time. I found out earlier this year but I never knew since my settings were kept safe. Guess I won't be making a cute commission from them anymore, shame.

First time I encountered Fusu was through Reddit. It was towards the end of last year, when someone was daily posting translated Fusu art, and was gaining like 1-1.5K karma on a daily basis. After a while, people got mad, started a revolution, and made their own "counter-art" that was playing exactly on the opposite to what Fusu is expressing in his art. Following that, the translated art posts ceased. 

Initially, I did save some of the confessions since I thought they are cute too, but then woke up to some sort of reality they might be "cringe" and simply addressed to those poor bastards with no gf (I am in no better shape, so yeah), therefore his art fitting perfectly with the whole topic of this thread. Just like you, I initially though his art does not go further than th confession art, but thanks to Danbooru, I learnt there's more to it. That's how I learnt of the "part 2" for each of these drawings, when everything following that confessions leads directly to naughty R-18 stuff. 
 

2 hours ago, Isaac said:

That artwork of Mokou and Keine isn't too bad but it's an anime cliché I'm not a fan of. I often see this with the other characters too but it's mostly insulting.

On a second though, it does look a bit cliche. However, I still like it in some measure (more like drawing technique and stuff like that). Also can you please explain to me this anime trope? I have seen it many times, yet never took it as more than just "one of the girls has bigger boobs". Besides (possible) body shaming, I really wanna know why it is so insulting, especially knowing how commonly used the cliche is in media. 
 

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